Area Forecast Discussion


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FXUS63 KMQT 161732
AFDMQT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI
132 PM EDT WED OCT 16 2013
.SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT)
ISSUED AT 456 AM EDT WED OCT 16 2013
AS OF 08Z THIS MORNING...A SFC/850MB LOW IS OVER ERN UPPER MI/NRN 
LAKE MICHIGAN...WITH THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS OVER WCENTRAL UPPER MI. 
PRECIP HAS BEEN ONGOING IN THE DEFORMATION ZONE TO THE N/NW OF THE 
85MB LOW...WITH ADDITIONAL PRECIP OVER NRN WI ASSOCIATED WITH A 
TROWAL ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE SYSTEM. BY 18Z TODAY...THE UPPER 
TROUGH AXIS WILL BE JUST E OF THE CWA WITH THE SFC LOW EVEN FARTHER 
E. BEHIND THE SYSTEM...A SFC/UPPER RIDGE AXIS WILL BE JUST NW OF THE 
CWA. EXPECT RAIN TO BE ONGOING ACROSS MAINLY THE NCENTRAL AND ERN 
CWA BY 15Z...WITH MORE ISOLATED RAIN SHOWERS OVER WRN UPPER MI. THE 
SHOWERS WILL BE DUE TO THE TROWAL OVER THE ERN CWA...WHILE THE REST 
OF THE CWA WILL BE SEEING UPSLOPE/LAKE EFFECT PRECIP AS 850MB TEMPS 
WILL BE AROUND 0C WITH NNW LOW LEVEL WINDS. WENT WITH HIGHER-RES 
MODELS FOR POPS AS THEY SEEMED MORE REALISTIC WITH UPSLOPE/LAKE 
EFFECT PRECIP...THOUGH DID NOT GO WITH AS HIGH/LONG OF POPS AS THE 
REGIONAL GEM SUGGESTED SINCE IT WAS AN OUTLIER ON THE HIGH END OF 
QPF. 
WITH THE RIDGE MOVING OVERHEAD TONIGHT...CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS 
OVER INTERIOR W AND CENTRAL WILL MAKE FOR A COLD NIGHT. LOWERED MIN 
TEMPS TONIGHT BY 3-4F TO 24-28F OVER THE INTERIOR AS MANY MODELS 
WERE GOING WITH COLDER TEMPS AND IT SEEMED REASONABLE GIVEN CLEAR 
SKIES/SUBSIDENCE AND PWATS AROUND 50 PERCENT OF NORMAL. OVER THE ERN 
CWA...THINK THAT ENOUGH UPSLOPE/LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS WILL STICK AROUND 
TO KEEP TEMPS FROM FALLING AS COLD...BUT STILL EXPECT LOWS AROUND 
FREEZING INLAND. OVER FAR WRN UPPER MI...HIGH CLOUDS WILL START TO 
FILTER IN LATER IN THE NIGHT AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...SO LOW TEMPS 
WILL BE A BIT WARMER THERE AT AROUND 30F INLAND FROM LAKE SUPERIOR.
.LONG TERM...(THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)
ISSUED AT 456 AM EDT WED OCT 16 2013
IN CONTRAST TO THE WARM WEATHER THAT GENERALLY DOMINATED MOST DAYS 
DURING THE FIRST 2 WEEKS OF OCT...THE NEXT 1-2 WEEKS WILL FEATURE 
DAILY TEMPS NEAR OR A LITTLE BLO NORMAL MOST DAYS. THIS IS A RESULT 
OF A MEAN TROF SETTING UP IN THE VCNTY OF THE GREAT LAKES REGION 
DOWNSTREAM OF A MEAN RIDGE OVER WRN NAMERICA. IT WILL BE AN ACTIVE 
PERIOD WITH FREQUENT PCPN CHANCES...TYPICAL FOR THIS TIME OF 
YEAR...AS THE UPPER LAKES WILL BE AFFECTED MOSTLY BY A SERIES OF 
SHORTWAVES DROPPING SE INTO THE MEAN TROF. THIS PATTERN GENERALLY 
DOES NOT FAVOR ANY SIGNIFICANT PCPN PRODUCING SYSTEMS. HOWEVER...IF 
ANY STRONG SHORTWAVES HAPPEN TO PASS THRU THE AREA...THEY COULD BE 
STRONG WIND PRODUCERS AS LATENT/SENSIBLE HEATING DUE TO THE GREAT 
LAKES WILL INTENSIFY SFC WAVES. 
BEGINNING THU...FCST AREA WILL BE MOSTLY BTWN SYSTEMS...ONE 
SHORTWAVE MOVING FROM THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY ACROSS LWR MI AND 
THE NEXT SHORTWAVE TROF AND ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT SWINGING TOWARD 
THE AREA FROM THE W AND NW. BULK OF THE FORCING WITH FORMER WAVE 
PASSES BY TO THE SE OF THE FCST AREA...WHILE FORCING WITH LATTER 
WAVE ARRIVES OVER THE WRN FCST AREA IN THE AFTN. RIGHT ENTRANCE OF 
UPPER JET EXTENDING FROM FAR NRN MN TO HUDSON BAY...AND BAND OF 
LOW-MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS SHOULD SUPPORT A BAND OF -SHRA 
ALONG/JUST BEHIND COLD FRONT AS IT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA THU AFTN 
THRU EARLY FRI MORNING. WITH WETBULB ZERO HEIGHTS ONLY FALLING JUST 
BLO 1500FT OVER THE HIGHEST TERRAIN OF THE W...POTENTIAL FOR ANY 
FROZEN PCPN IS VERY LIMITED LATE THU NIGHT/FRI MORNING. 
BEHIND THE FRONT...850MB TEMPS FALL TO AROUND -3C...ON THE 
THRESHOLD FOR LAKE EFFECT PCPN WITH A LARGE PORTION OF LAKE SUPERIOR 
SFC WATER TEMPS AROUND 10C. HOWEVER...WITH AREAS OF WARMER WATER... 
THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT PCPN SIMPLY BASED 
ON INSTABILTY. ON THE OTHER HAND...FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW DEVELOPMENT 
OF A WELL-MIXED LAYER WHICH IS LESS FAVORABLE FOR LAKE EFFECT PCPN. 
INCREASINGLY ANTICYCLONIC FLOW AS SFC HIGH PRES RIDGE BUILDS INTO 
THE AREA WILL ALSO BE A NEGATIVE. SO...WILL CARRY PCPN OVER THE W IN 
THE MORNING AND DIMINISH PCPN IN THE AFTN OVER THE E. WINDS CONTINUE 
TO BACK A LITTLE MORE FRI EVENING AHEAD OF THE NEXT SHORTWAVE 
ARRIVING FOR SAT/SAT NIGHT. SHOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY DRY FRI EVENING.
STRONGER SHORTWAVE DROPS INTO THE AREA SAT/SAT NIGHT...BRINGING 
SHOWERY PCPN UNDER CYCLONIC FLOW AND PERSISTENT DEEP LAYER FORCING. 
WITH 850MB TEMPS IN THE -2 TO -4C RANGE...EXPECT LAKE ENHANCEMENT.
SO PCPN WILL BE MORE LIKELY NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. TYPICAL FOR EARLY 
SEASON LAKE EFFECT...THERE WILL LIKELY BE SOME GRAUPEL WITH HEAVIER 
SHOWERS...BUT BEST CHC OF ANY SNOW MIXING WITH PCPN WILL BE SAT 
NIGHT/SUN MORNING OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN. THERE WILL BE A DOWNWARD 
TREND IN PCPN SUN AS SHORTWAVE DEPARTS/HEIGHTS RISE AND SUBSIDENCE 
OVERSPREADS THE AREA. 
UNCERTAINTY IS HIGH FOR MON/TUE AS MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE HAS AND 
CONTINUES TO SHOW LITTLE AGREEMENT ON TIMING/STRENGTH OF SHORTWAVES 
DROPPING INTO THE MEAN TROF. THERE HAVE BEEN HINTS IN SOME MODEL 
RUNS IN RECENT DAYS (ECMWF IN PARTICULAR) THAT A POTENT SHORTWAVE 
MIGHT DROP ACROSS THE AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK. SOMETHING TO KEEP IN 
MIND IN THE COMING DAYS. IN ANY EVENT...LARGE SCALE PATTERN SUGGESTS 
CONTINUED UNSETTLED WEATHER MON/TUE.
&&
.AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z THURSDAY AFTERNOON)
ISSUED AT 131 PM EDT WED OCT 16 2013
SKIES HAVE BEEN SLOW TO CLEAR ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA THIS 
AFTERNOON...HOWEVER...CEILINGS HAVE DEFINITELY IMPROVED FROM THE 
IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS THAT WERE LINGERING EARLIER TODAY. VIS SATELLITE 
AND UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS INDICATE CLEARING SKIES APPROACHING THE 
IWD AND CMX TAF SITES. AFTER TIMING THE APPROACH OF THE CLEARING 
SKIES IT LOOKS LIKE IWD WILL CLEAR AROUND 20Z WHILE CMX MAY HOLD ON 
TO CLOUD COVER THROUGH 22Z. KSAW...BEING FARTHER EAST...WILL HANG ON 
TO THE CLOUD COVER THROUGH 00Z/17. CEILINGS UNDER THIS DECK OF 
CLOUDS HAVE BEEN IFR TO MVFR...WITH LOWER CLOUDS REMAINING CLOSER TO 
KSAW. VISIBILITY IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE...HOWEVER A FEW 
AREAS MAY SEE VISIBILITY SLIGHTLY REDUCED IN PATCHY DRIZZLE 
LINGERING ACROSS THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON. DRIER AIR AND HIGH 
PRESSURE BUILDING INTO THE REGION WILL ALLOW SKIES TO CLEAR FROM 
WEST TO EAST DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS AND REMAIN THAT 
WAY THROUGH THE END OF THE TAF PERIOD. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN FAIRLY 
LIGHT AS THE AFOREMENTIONED HIGH PRESSURE CENTER BUILDS INTO THE 
REGION.
&&
.MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)
ISSUED AT 456 AM EDT WED OCT 16 2013
LOW PRESSURE OVER EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN EARLY THIS MORNING WILL 
EXIT INTO QUEBEC BY THIS AFTERNOON. A BRIEF RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE 
WILL PUSH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR LATE TODAY THROUGH TONIGHT...ALLOWING 
WINDS TO DIMINISH TO LESS THAN 15 KNOTS. THE NEXT AREA OF CONCERN 
WILL BE WITH A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR ON 
THURSDAY...SHIFTING EASTWARD FRIDAY AFTERNOON...WITH ANOTHER BRIEF 
RIDGE BUILDING BACK IN FRIDAY NIGHT. WINDS THROUGH THE EXTENDED 
FORECAST SHOULD REMAIN BELOW 20 KNOTS.
&&
.MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
UPPER MICHIGAN...
NONE.
LAKE SUPERIOR...
NONE.
LAKE MICHIGAN...
NONE.
&&
$$
SHORT TERM...TITUS
LONG TERM...ROLFSON
AVIATION...KEC
MARINE...TITUS